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[bbertrand]

Bonjour,
Je viens d'acquérir un nouveau mac sous OS Mojave.
J'aimerais supprimer l'application Bourse qui ne m'est d'aucune utilité.
La tentative manuelle m'indique de cela n'est pas possible, car "mac OS requiert l'application".
Est-ce vraiment le cas ou s'agit-il d'un bug ?
J'ai aussi essayer de l'éliminer cette application via terminal mais sans plus de succès. ( résultat ci-dessous )
Avez-vous une solution ?

Merci d'avance
B.B.

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Piya:Stocks.app Ordi_B$ sudo rm -rf /Applications/Stocks.app 
Password:
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/_CodeSignature/CodeResources: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/_CodeSignature: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/MacOS/Stocks: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/MacOS: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/de.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/de.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/he.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/he.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/en_AU.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/en_AU.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ar.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ar.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/el.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/el.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ja.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ja.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/en.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/en.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/uk.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/uk.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/es_419.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/es_419.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/zh_CN.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/zh_CN.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/es.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/es.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/da.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/it.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/it.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/sk.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/sk.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/pt_PT.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/pt_PT.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ms.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ms.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/testDefinitions.plist: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/sv.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/sv.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/cs.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/cs.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ko.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ko.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/no.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/hu.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/hu.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/zh_HK.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/zh_HK.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/tr.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/tr.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/pl.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/pl.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/en_GB.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/en_GB.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/vi.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/vi.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ru.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ru.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/fr_CA.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/fr_CA.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/fr.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/fr.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/id.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/id.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/nl.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/nl.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/th.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/th.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/pt.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/pt.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ro.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ro.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/AppIcon_macOS.icns: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/hr.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/hr.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/hi.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/hi.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ca.lproj/InfoPlist.strings: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources/ca.lproj: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Resources: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/Info.plist: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/PkgInfo: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents/version.plist: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app/Contents: Operation not permitted
rm: /Applications/Stocks.app: Operation not permitted
Piya:Stocks.app Ordi_B$

[bbertrand]

J'ai trouvé une solution sur le web ( qui concerne non seulement Bourse, mais toutes les applications natives, car toutes produisent le même message lorsqu'on essaye de les mettre dans la poubelle ): https://maccoremac.com/guide-to-uninstalling-mac-apps/


On y apprend que sudo rm -rf marchait bien sous OS 10.10 mais que : On macOS 10.11 and up, you are required to disable Mac’s System Integrity rotection (MSIP). The process is a hassle on its own, and it is not recommended you do so, regardless of the fact that you can reenable it after uninstalling the app.

La méthode de désactivation de la MSIP se trouve facilement par ailleurs... et devrait permettre à sudo rm -rf /applications/Stocks.app de faire son travail !


Avant de passer à l'action, j'apprécierais une réponse à ma première question, à savoir : Est-ce vraiment le cas que "mac OS requiert l'application" ?
( si oui : pourquoi ?, quelles fonctions étranges remplit-elle pour ce système ? serait-ce dangereux de la jeter ?
sinon : pourquoi nous empêcher se débarrasser simplement des applications indésirées, et nous forcer à prendre des risques pour s'en débarrasser ?